What Anti-Civ Transgenderism Really Means

3 Mar

I don’t know how anybody can consider themselves anti-civ and pro-transgenderism at the same time. It’s completely insane. Transgender philosophy is all about access to high-tech medical procedures. That is the mask that covers what is really going on, which is flat-out boundary transgression. If you want to be anti-civ and pro-transgender, what you are saying is any man who says he is a woman must be accepted as such by women, as-is, and vice versa.


I am becoming quite scorched earth about this bullshit. I was talking to another blogger this evening, and she was writing about another blogger’s post, a person who reads the reddit transgender subreddits and critiques them. This was about a woman who basically presented as a “butch” lesbian and was promptly told she was likely transgender. I wrote, in so many words: “Leaving aside the debate over whether the butch/femme dichotomy is just more genderism, or something of lesbianism that is beyond gender; I wonder whether anyone has ever asked trans activists what the difference is between a butch lesbian and a transman.”

We were talking about women, but obviously the same can be applied to men. Have any of these people ever even attempted to make the distinction between a transgender person and a gender-defying homosexual? And if one brings this up, is it ever possible to have a conversation about it, without being censored?

We were also discussing how it’s a popular trope to accuse people who are critical of transgenderism as being right-wing, and you can see where this discussion went, because anybody with half a brain can see where it goes. Trans activists simultaneously accuse critics of being right wing and censor discussion of gender-defying homosexuals, even though the right wing is homophobic, so we are all, according to them, right wing for suggesting “transgenders” might actually be homosexuals. A kindergartner could see what’s wrong with this. It is, as is all transgender philosophy, an insult to everyone’s intelligence.

Half the time when I comment online about transgenderism (and I do this quite a bit) I make a point of referencing yourlogicalfallacyis.com and pointing out how one of the fallacies they list is commonly used in defending transgenderism. It’s easier to find one that *isn’t*.

Texas sharpshooter, bandwagon, several involving shifting goal posts, begging the question, tu quoque. You could teach a fucking course about logical fallacies just using material from transgenderists.

I am tired of apologizing. I am tired of soothing feelings. Transgenderism is a bullshit philosophy. Gender identity is not a physiological medical condition. It’s a narrative that has become a trend. It’s closer to a religion than it is anything else, and the law has no business whatsoever codifying it to the point where protections of women are eliminated.

Instead, presentation should be protected by law, for both sexes. This would make sense, this would be a win for everybody except the assholes who want to force men and women into gendered roles. And protecting presentation would work just fine with anti-civ stances. You don’t need civilization to decorate yourself or have a personality. But you do need civilization to create hierarchies that enforce sex roles to the point where people actually accept the idea that it’s okay to encourage children, small children, to believe themselves doomed to a life of hormone treatment, dodgy surgeries, sterilization, and unknown long term side effects.



9 Responses to “What Anti-Civ Transgenderism Really Means”

  1. stchauvinism 2016/03/03 at 3:46 am #

    Reblogged this on things I've read or intend to.


  2. purplesagefem 2016/03/03 at 6:47 am #

    Yes! Yes! Thank you!


  3. Sha'Tara 2016/03/03 at 12:43 pm #

    Debating whether to enter into this discussion, but as a trans, I’m always interested to engage others attempting to wade through this gender concept. What is legal binary gender? It’s about control. What needs to happen is for all gender identity in the legal/work related environments to be struck out. No more male or female, since these restrictive terms do not describe people, but bodies. Are we bodies, or are we intelligent, sentient, self-aware beings? As a trans with a male body but female “identity” I am quite at ease, at peace and happy with my “condition” as I can function in either catergories with no problem. The problem is other people, who can’t seem to grasp that being “trans” is having more, not less, of what it means to be human. Well, maybe it’s subconscious jealousy, a threat to their status quo.

    From my point of view, it’s best to go along with how “others” accept me in any particular situation. I’ve been accepted as both, a man and a woman (usually from the way I dress which is an extremely shallow way to judge anyone) and either way works. The key is to use one’s either/or gender freedom to develop compassion towards others. To understand. What I do not like, and have never supported, is for third gender people who “come out” to shove their awareness into straight peoples’ faces. That’s prosletizing and it is totally counter-productive. What should mark trans-gendered, or third gendered people is acceptance and tolerance. Kindness and compassion.

    Finally, a request: I’d like a real and proper definition of what “civ” or “cis” means to those who use these acronyms. Too many acronyms in use these days and they can man anything when not explained at the beginning of an article. “CIS” for examply has hundreds of possibilities, “CIV” dozens at least, and none relate to the gender issues. Unless someone knows what “civ” means, anti-civ is a meaningless term.

    Well, let’s see where this goes.


    • Miep 2016/03/03 at 3:30 pm #

      Your position is ultimately untenable for anyone who considers gender a deeply enforced social construct, the primary purpose of which is to condition women into submissiveness. To agree that transgenderism should be legitimized is to agree that male and female identities are real, which is to go along with the oppression of women. Transgenderism and feminism are thus inherently at odds.

      I agree that people should not be discriminated against because of the medical potions they consume, or because of whatever body mods they have had. But I do not agree that engaging in such medical practices has anything to do with your sex.

      It is one thing to believe unprovable things about yourself. It is quite another to mandate everyone else believe them, too.

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    • Miep 2016/03/03 at 3:33 pm #

      Also, “civ” is short for “civilization,” which may easily be determined with a quick search. “Cis”, like “terf” and “tranny,” are used as slurs.

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    • Miep 2016/03/03 at 3:44 pm #

      Feminism is not about thinking transgender people aren’t “real,” it’s about thinking gender is artificial. It’s a language problem to some extent. A lot of people use “sex” and “gender” interchangeably, which complicates the issue. Aside from having fielded stuff like “die cis scum,” I don’t think “cis” is real. I don’t like other people applying fake labels to me that are intended to imply I have some kind of invented privilege.

      It is striking that you ask me to define “cis,” when what is needed is a definition of “gender.” When you have a socially enforced system of codified norms of expression and behavior on a sexual axis, anyone who defies this will be socially punished. In this sense, people who go along with the enforcement, according to their actual sex, are less oppressed than those who don’t. But it has nothing to do with one’s personality not being aligned with one’s sex. It’s about one’s personality not being aligned with societal expectations for persons of that sex.

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    • Miep 2016/03/03 at 4:01 pm #

      Feminist have fought and worked hard to establish safe intimate public spaces for women. There are still countries where girls cannot safely attend school because there are no girls’ bathrooms. Transgenderism threatens to roll back all the progress we’ve made, and has made great strides doing so, as we are still a genderist country looking for any excuse to put nonconformers in their place.

      Meanwhile, women who know what gender really is, and how evil it is, are now being blamed for men who enforce gender taking it out on men who defy it. This is basically blaming the messenger. Also we get blamed now when some guy in a dress goes berkerk and hurts someone, he is now callled a woman in the newspapers.

      How can we be expected to go along with all this? We are constantly pressured to ally with transgenderists when transgenderism is based on the very belief system we are fighting.

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  4. purplesagefem 2016/03/04 at 7:31 pm #

    Excellent explanations Miep.


  5. brigidwild 2018/01/08 at 10:07 pm #

    I am quite scorched earth as well. One can not raise *any* questions, about *anything* regarding current trans politics or the philosophy surrounding it, without risking the worst of labels and potential ostrasization from “the left”. Its like there is a mass hypnosis going on, of cult like proportions.
    I posted the other day, on f.b, an article which simply mentioned briefly some questions about maybe there might be better solutions than constant medical procedures to change our discomfort with ourselves, and yes, it questioned the practice of supplying youth with puberty suppressants.
    I was branded as venturing into terf territory for daring to question, on any level, whether or not physically healthy children should be getting medical intervention, including some teenage girls having their breasts removed! I was denying their “lived reality” (whatever the fuck that means)!
    One of these women who commented on my post has known me for 25 years, seen me in and out of relationships with men and women, seen me befriend and move among some of the most radical people, seen my activism and protesting (long before trump), my art, knows that I grew up in a mixed race and sexually non conforming family (with a brother who from the time he was 2 would refer to himself as a woman, but lives as a gay man), and yet 25 years of knowing someone is wiped out in an instant because i posted one article. And that was the *least* of what I would like to post, but don’t quite dare to because much of my online circle (on f.b anyways) consist of people heavily invested in the current trans ideology.
    I no longer live in portland but many of my old friends there are lesbians, who are fully on board with everything trans, as are most of my female friends in general. Some of my old lesbian friends have now become “men”. And if any of my female friends did think anything similarly to me, they would never admit so publicly.
    I have always been willing to live outside of popular norms, including any norms in my friend base, but increasingly, within the current climate of the u.s, to not agree means total banishment. You are a total transphobic, paranoid bigot. This bleeds over into almost every other area of politics as well.
    Its insanity.


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